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This podcast is produced by fans of Veronica Mars, and is in no way affiliated with the UPN/CW network, Rob Thomas, or The Powers That Be, and does not reflect the views of any of the entities creating and producing the show. Skip to: THVO: Aargh! Veronica Mars' fans, you’re listening to Neptune Pirate Radio. [OPENING THEME MUSIC: Vancefurd- Pirate Song] SCARLETT: Hi, guys. You’re listening to Neptune Pirate Radio and this is our third podcast. Welcome to the show. THEO: Hello, everybody. SANDY: I can’t- I can’t believe we’re at number three. It’s crazy. SCARLETT: I know. THEO: I’m so excited. It’s so exciting. SCARLETT: Crazy. THEO: And we’ve already had our first celebrity interview. SANDY: We have. SCARLETT: We had a real celebrity here. THEO: Absolutely. SANDY: But nobody this week. We don’t have anybody- we don’t have any fancy guest stars this week, guys. I’m sorry to disappoint. SCARLETT: You’re just stuck with us. THEO: I know. But you know what? I’ll, I’ll try to make it a little more exciting. I’ll see what I can pull. SCARLETT: Are you gonna pull something out of the hat, Theo? THEO: I’ll pull something out of somewhere. I’m not sure it’s gonna be a hat, and I’m not gonna tell you what it’s gonna be. SANDY: Um, before we get there though, I think we have a contest to settle. And that is which DVD commentary we’re gonna do. SCARLETT: Very exciting. THEO: Ooh, you know what? I have to say, I was the one to tally the votes, and one episode won hands down. SANDY: And which one was that? THEO: And that was An Echolls Family Christmas. SCARLETT: Woohoo! Yay. THEO: So, hopefully I think we’re gonna get on this in the next few weeks or month, or uh, you know. Sometime soon. We will have the commentary up on our website, which is www.neptunepirateradio.com. I made sure not to mess it up this week. SANDY: Yes. Very good. Very good. SCARLETT: Nice. THEO: Everyone should be very proud of me. Absolutely. SCARLETT: We are. SANDY: Um. So, I have another conversion story to share. I’m like, the Conversion Queen lately. THEO: You are, ‘cause I don’t have any this week. I don’t have any. SANDY: I sent my, I sent my brother- through Amazon I sent him the first season on DVD. And yesterday he got them. And last night he was watching them. I have to say that my brother is one of the most critical people I know in the world, and he’s also somebody whose opinion matters a great deal to me. And so I was very, very nervous about the fact that he was gonna be listening to the DVD. Or, he’s going to be watching the DVDs and checking out this show that I talk about all the time. And four episodes in yesterday, he sent me a message over instant messenger and said, “Oh my God. The show is so excellent.” THEO: It’s true. SANDY: And, I was just so happy because, you know. Not that I don’t think it’s the greatest show in the world, because obviously, I do. But to- SCARLETT: But when your family approves that’s something extra special. SANDY: Yeah. Yeah. Well and especially somebody that- THEO: Absolutely. Uh- SANDY: Go ahead. THEO: When someone with standards that high approves it’s very gratifying. SANDY: Exactly. Exactly. THEO: And I actually- last weekend I had a very good friend who I’ve known for years and years come to visit me in New York. And uh, I’ve been telling her- she and I are big TV fans and I’ve been trying to sell her on the show. And so her birthday was recently and I bought her the DVDs and I gave them to her last week. So she took them home, and she watched them all week. And I get a call today at work, literally this morning at 10:00am, I answer my phone and she goes, “Oh my God. Logan and Veronica just made out.” [Laughter] SANDY: That’s a moment I deem worthy of calling up all my friends and family too. SCARLETT: That’s pretty much my description of it. THEO: It’s… I- yeah. I don’t know how else to go about that but uh, she was gonna watch the rest of them today and uh; I’ll see what she thinks of season one. And uh, I’ll report back next week, I promise. So. SANDY: Awesome. SCARLETT: I have to say, I mean. I’ve already said I studied film and television for my degree in college. But uh, we were learning all about what makes quality TV from the critics, and Veronica Mars holds up against every point there. THEO: I agree. SCARLETT: Every point the critics make. And uh, you can link it. I was linking it in my notes. I was writing away and putting examples next to them so I’d remember Veronica Mars. It was excellent. SANDY: I’m not at all surprised by that though. I mean, I’m really, really not. I think it’s amazing. THEO: Don’t you love it when the show turns into like, a really gritty noir movie? SCARLETT: Yeah. THEO: But, like this week- especially this week. And we’ll talk about this later in the podcast when we get to the actual episode discussion. But I just thought that this week was such a great like, dirty noir. I thought it was fantastic. SCARLETT: It’s when you tend to be like, all Bogart and Bacall- THEO: Absolutely. SCARLETT: -and you’re like, yeah. That’s totally them. SANDY: Yeah, well with the- you get the wet streets. THEO: And the fights! SANDY: Right. Exactly. SCARLETT: Beyond, it’s the grit. SANDY: Yes. It was very exciting. THEO: Yeah. SCARLETT: We like the dirt here. THEO: Sandy, it reminds me of that time when we were partners, you know, grifters. Out on the long con. [Laughter] SANDY: Yes. THEO: You were the roper. SANDY: I was the roper. SCARLETT: Committing fraud THEO: Good times. Good times. That’s right. SANDY: Well I have something else that I think needs just before we go to our first break, guys. And I think you already know what’s coming. But this week, once again Kristin Veitch of E!Online is conducting the Save One Show poll. And I have just been is such distress about the fact that she listed Veronica as one of the shows that’s a lock for the new network. THEO: That’s so dangerous. SANDY: Because on those message boards now, people are not voting for Veronica because they think, oh. It’s guaranteed for the new network. And I have to say that’s simply not true. SCARLETT: Last week Michael told us: we’re not a lock. Michael Muhney told us. THEO: No. SANDY: No. He very much told us there’s definitely not a lock. And, you know, this show needs the votes. So please, send an email to tvdiva@eonline.com, and put Veronica Mars in the subject line. It’s so important that you get out there and vote. Because we won this poll last year, and UPN definitely pays attention to it, so. Please, please, please, go out there and vote. SCARLETT: And just think if there’s no Veronica Mars, there’s no Neptune Pirate Radio. THEO: That’s right. SANDY: There is that too. THEO: Who will listen to us? SCARLETT: Keep us on air, guys. SANDY: Yes. That’s really what’s important. No, actually if there’s no Veronica Mars, my world is shattered. So. If for no other reason than just to keep my world intact: vote for Veronica Mars. SCARLETT: Keep Sandy sane. THEO: Let me venture one more point that when you do email them, you should only email them once from each account. If you have more than one account- SCARLETT: Email them more than once. THEO: Yes. But only email once from each account. SANDY: Go ahead and set up new email accounts. This is the time when you can use those one hundred gmail invites. THEO: Oh God. SANDY: Just start being, you know- SCARLETT: When you have like twenty-five gmail invites just send them to yourself. SANDY: Exactly. SCARLETT: From the email account Save Veronica Mars. SANDY: Exactly. Sandy1@gmailcom, Sandy2@gmail…. Sandy3. That’s what I did. Um. THEO: I think we’ve got like eight hundred invites between the three of us, so. You know. SANDY: Yeah. We’re good and covered. SCARLETT: We’ve done our part, guys. It’s up to you now. THEO: Absolutely. neptunepirateradio@gmail.com Let us know. We’ll give you an evite. Evite. It’s a gmail invite. SCARLETT: An e-invite. An e-invite. SANDY: Yes. THEO: I’m so confused right now. SCARLETT: And Theo’s diction might actually improve. SANDY: Um, yes. Which can only be a good thing. THEO: Let’s not hold out hope, all right. Cause, yeah. Not gonna happen. SANDY: All right. Well on that note, we’re gonna go ahead and take our first break and we’ll be back after this. [ENTER INTO SCVO, to melody of “Twinkle, twinkle, little star”] SCVO: Twinkle, twinkle, little star, how I wonder what you are. [END SCVO song- Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star- Veronica Mars style] SANDY: All right, Mars fans. I’m gonna level with you here. Bailey and I are both incredibly superstitious people. Am I right? BAILEY: Very superstitious. SANDY: And with all of this hoopla that’s been going on all over the Internet, we have been getting increasingly, increasingly nervous. BAILEY: Yes. SANDY: So. I mean you guys know what we’re talking about. But in case you don’t, we’ve got a little list that we’ve prepared of Things Not to Do if You Want to Guarantee that Veronica Mars- I’m sorry, not even guarantee. We shouldn’t use that word. SCARLETT: You guys are very, very superstitious. You’re almost anal about superstition. SANDY: We are. We’re a little anal about it. And I think we were fine- SCARLETT: If there were any ladders online, you guys would not be walking under them. SANDY: Exactly. We wouldn’t. BAILEY: Yes. Definitely not. SANDY: So we’ve- BAILEY: It’s like so many people are jinxing it. SANDY: Totally! And it’s driving me crazy. BAILEY: Yes. SANDY: So we’ve prepared a little list. BAILEY: A little list? SANDY: Well. A big list. SCARLETT: Cool! SANDY: A big list. Of things not to do. SCARLETT: Be honest here, Sandy. SANDY: You, you wanna hear it? You wanna hear the list? SCARLETT: I do. I do wanna hear the list. SANDY: All right, Bailey. Should we give ‘em the list? BAILEY: I think we should give them the list. We have to warn people out there what they’re doing. SANDY: I know. BAILEY: They know not what they do. SANDY: So they stop. BAILEY: Stop. SANDY: Okay. So for the first- we’re just gonna dive right into this. BAILEY: Okay. SANDY: First of all. SCARLETT: Enlighten us guys, come on. [THE LIST COMMENCES. Cameron, the transcriber, prepares to be enlightened.] SANDY: For the love of Rob, do not go on the Internet and tell people what you heard as an extra on a set two sets down from Veronica Mars. BAILEY: Do not buy four thousand dollar showers. SANDY: Do not act blasé, as you’ll be kicking yourself in the butt for not taking action if the news on May 19th is not good. BAILEY: Please, do not act like you know it all, because you really do not. Nothing, and I mean nothing, is set in stone until May 19th, and you do not want an angry mob of Veronica Mars fans storming your house with torches. SANDY: Don’t theorize on the big mystery of season three when we haven’t even figured out who crashed the bus. BAILEY: Do not talk about how Michael got contacted to be a series regular, so season three must be a go. You’ll feel really awful when you’ve jinxed him right out of his job. SANDY: Don’t speculate on other season three regulars. We’re just focused on helping Kristen keep her spot. BAILEY: Do not vote against other fandoms. What goes around will definitely come around. SANDY: Don’t post new Save the Show polls in mass TV forums. Instead, try a thread titled, “Oh my God, did you see Veronica Mars last night?”as the subject line, and surprise fans with a link inside. As an addendum, if you see, “Oh my God. How great was One Tree Hill last night?” click and go inside the thread just to be sure. BAILEY: It is never a bad idea to send a few bad cats Kevin Williamson’s way. SANDY: It’s also not a bad idea to set up a ladder outside Aaron Spelling’s door. BAILEY: Stop talking about missing Meg. We all love Meg and we all miss her, but you just might miss her right into Veronica’s timeslot. SANDY: Don’t make fun of the One Tree Hill fans for freaking out. This could be us one day, and we may need allies. BAILEY: Do not make Veronica Mars/Gilmore Girls graphics advertising an “all new night,” as that could very well doom us into a life at the TV show graveyard. SANDY: Dawn Ostroff is our friend. Kissing her butt should not be looked down upon. BAILEY: While she is our friend, this does not necessarily mean that we are guaranteed a season three. SANDY: Stop trying to placate others with your vast knowledge of “the business.” BAILEY: Do not, for the love of Rob, start communities called, “The CW/Veronica Mars.” SANDY: Don’t talk about how you know Aquaman is going to suck. It’s the reverse jinx effect. Look it up. BAILEY: Remember that Save One Show poll that none of you voted in because Veronica wasn’t in trouble last year, so instead you wasted your votes on Reunion, which was already cancelled? This poll is up again. Do not waste your votes no matter what anybody says. SANDY: Now I know you’re all mad about Gilmore this season, and you wanna tie April and Christopher to a tree and burn them at the stake. We get it. We understand. But stop talking about how you aren’t gonna watch the show next year. We need Dawn thinking that Gilmore Girls is the best show ever, and that Veronica fans love it. Save your critiques for May 20th. BAILEY: Stop talking about Chad Michael Murray’s pregnant child bride. Bad press is still press. SANDY: Stop linking press releases from January as proof of the show’s return. BAILEY: Stop talking about season two DVDs. We do not know if we’re going to get them. If we get renewed, we have a much better shot. SANDY: Stop arranging your class schedule for next semester around Veronica Mars on Tuesdays. That is what the Drop/Add period is for. BAILEY: There is one thing to keep in mind. Everybody does not hate Chris. SANDY: Sitting on your butt does not a season three make. BAILEY: Stop talking about how you loved Veronica from episode one. Nobody cares and it makes the newbies feel late to the party. We love the newbies. We embrace them. The newbies bring us season three. SANDY: Finally, do not doubt the power of jinxes. That is a jinx in itself. [END of THE LIST. Cameron, the transcriber, quivers in fear.] SANDY: Well I think that about covers it Bailey. What about you? BAILEY: I, I think that’s about it unless we wanna be here all night. SANDY: Well we really could go on, but- BAILEY: Yeah, that’s what I was gonna- I’m sure we could. Very superstitious, we are. SANDY: We are. Um. But on that note, we’re gonna let you ruminate over those list items, and we’ll be back after this. [BEGIN THVO] THVO: Ever find yourself surfing message boards and encounter that one poster who just makes you wanna toss your laptop out the window? Don’t damage your own hardware. Instead, try finger cuffs. Four out of five posters agree, finger cuffs are the number one way to keep Internet posters at bay. [END THVO] THEO: Welcome back Veronica Mars fans. Now is the time in our weekly podcast where we talk about the episode this week. And uh, with me is Sandy. Scarlett can’t make it. We’re having some technical problems. But uh, hopefully she’ll join us next week for the discussion. SANDY: Yes. Definitely. THEO: What did you think about the week’s episode? Nevermind the Buttocks. SANDY: Um, I thought it was really great. I mean I thought, you know. First of all I just wanna tell everybody out there that we are a little bit late in bringing this and one of the reasons is like we said, the technical difficulties. But we’re trying to make this sound much better. We’re trying to get all those kinks worked out and the result is we sort of shut down production for most of this weekend. So that’s why Scarlett isn’t here and um, so I’m gonna be tossing in some things that are not my original ideas, that are Scarlett’s ideas. I’m gonna try and credit her wherever possible. THEO: Speaking of which, Scarlett would kill us both if we did not mention that the title of this episode comes from a Sex Pistols album called Nevermind the Bollocks. SANDY: Yes. THEO: Here are The Sex Pistols, which she mentioned yesterday. So. SANDY: Yes. She did. Well yesterday to us, not yesterday to the rest of you. THEO: Right. SANDY: Um. Yes. She would be very, very sad. She would also be sad if we didn’t talk about um, how, you know, this episode really gave us a good sense of the first season sort of feel. The very noir-esque feel of the first season. THEO: Absolutely. I like that. I miss the sort of grittiness. SANDY: Me too. Me too. I mean I, I thought, you know, this wasn’t an episode where you were shouting, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, at the TV every 30 seconds like you were in Plan B. Or blown away by the visual effects and the wealth of information that we got in um, last week’s episode. But it was a very first season feel. You had your mystery of the week, which this time actually sort of fed into the overall mystery, which was really great. THEO: Yeah. I, I’ve been waiting for that to happen. SANDY: Yeah. Me too. Me too. And I thought, you know, Veronica’s decision about that at the end of the episode was, I thought, one of the most interesting aspects of the episode. THEO: Yeah, it surprised me. She seems- she usually works from an ethic of, you know, I work for them. It’s their job to process whatever I bring them. SANDY: Yeah. THEO: Now she sort of takes a step back and says it’s not really… it’s a little more complicated than that. SANDY: Well, you know this is the second time we’ve seen that this season. We saw before um, when she was dealing with Abel Koontz in Rat Saw God and she lied to him about Amelia’s fate because she thought there’s no reason to tell him that his daughter is dead right before he dies. THEO: True. SANDY: So this is the second time where it seems that she’s opting to sort of spare someone uh, the truth. Which is just interesting. I think it’s a big change from the harder edged Veronica who was no holds barred. THEO: True. Especially because I know she would, you know, had she told the truth the boy would’ve probably gone and killed or hurt one of the Fitzpatricks. And I can’t really see her not liking that at this point, especially after what they did to her dad. SANDY: Right. I mean the person who definitely has it out for Keith, but she couldn’t bring herself to potentially ruin this kid’s life for good. THEO: Speaking of which: How awesome was the Keith fight scene. I was so glad that we could get some action. SANDY: So good. It was really good. Um. I loved getting to see the vulnerability. I mean Keith, Keith oftentimes we saw the vulnerability last year in A Trip to the Dentist when- or I’m sorry, in Leave it to Beaver when he finally reveals to Veronica that he’s her father and he breaks down. One of my favorite scenes of all time. But, um. Also, you know, to see him go from being just this guy who’s a total rock star, can find anybody, can do anything, and all of a sudden to see him say, “Please. I have a daughter.” THEO: Begging for his life. SANDY: Yeah. Essentially begging for his life, which you know he wouldn’t do in any other circumstance except for the fact that he does have a daughter and she’s right outside. THEO: Yeah. SANDY: Um. So let’s talk a little bit about the- you can tell how much we miss Scarlett when she’s not here. She’s our humor and I miss her. Um. She keeps us interesting, so I’m sorry. THEO: She’s our funny- she’s our great Scottish accent. SANDY: Yes, she’s our- she’s our little lass. THEO: I miss that. SANDY: She’s got the accent and we miss her. Um. Okay. Let’s talk about the, the scene at the end. Aaron Echolls’ Oscar trophy. Lilly’s blood, Duncan’s hair. Wow. THEO: Oh God. That asked me to suspend so much disbelief because, really? Aaron Echolls, an Oscar? Like, did he buy this from someone? SANDY: Aw. Nicolas Cage has an Oscar. I don’t think we can say anything about Aaron Echolls. THEO: You know. It’s so true. And I can name more. SANDY: Yeah. THEO: But in the cause of brevity I will let it pass. SANDY: So to me, it doesn’t seem entirely unreasonable that he could win an Oscar. And actually if you look back, as many people on different TV forums have pointed out, and which I went and confirmed for myself because any excuse to go watch the first season again I’m gonna take; but in Mutually Assured Destruction, in M.A.D., you can actually see in the Echolls house; I think it’s two Oscar trophies. THEO: Oh wow. SANDY: So. Yeah. So. You know. Clearly this has been established before that he’s not quite such a terrible actor. He just is also willing to do bad movies if the, if the dollar signs are right. THEO: If the money’s right. SANDY: But yeah, I think, you know. The way they tied together Kendall’s desire to buy the Kane estate, picking up the hairs from Duncan’s shower… THEO: Yeah. I was glad to see that come back. I’ve been wondering what was she doing in that shower? I’m glad to see it actually revealed this week. SANDY: Yeah. Now we actually know. And, you know. I think that what’s killing me is the blood of Lilly being on the Oscar, because where are they gonna get Lilly’s blood two years after Lilly died. I think, you know, there’s a really good chance we’re gonna find out that that is in fact the murder weapon. And that Aaron had held onto it and threw the ashtray into the pool to sort of divert. THEO: Makes you think of that. Wow. SANDY: Yeah. And it sort of calls into question, well what else are we gonna learn about that circumstance that wasn’t exactly how we sort of saw it through Veronica’s eyes last year. So I can’t wait to see how that all plays out. THEO: Ubiquitous blue-tinted flashbacks. SANDY: Yeah. Exactly. THEO: Which I miss. I have to say I miss those. SANDY: I miss the blue-tinted flashbacks too. THEO: You know what I don’t miss? The blue-tinted flashback Veronica hair. SANDY: Oh, I liked her with long hair. I thought she looked all sweet and innocent. I miss- I do miss the first season funky hairdos though. We’re getting some like, ponytails and some little buns, but I’m gonna be a really happy camper when she starts rocking the pigtails again. THEO: Yeah. That’ll be fun. Especially if we get to see her past graduation. SANDY: [sad] Aw. THEO: When. If. Crossing my fingers. SANDY: Yeah. THEO: Praying that people send in emails. SANDY: And you know a good way to do that? THEO: To send in emails. SANDY: To send in emails. TV diva. THEO: To send in emails. tvdiva@eonline.com I think everyone knows this by now. SANDY: Yes. Well, we can’t tell them enough. THEO: I can’t. SANDY: tvdiva@eonline.com Vote Veronica Mars. THEO: Veronica Mars in the subject. SANDY: It is not safe. I don’t care what Kristen Veitch says. I don’t care what Michael Ausiello says. The show is not safe with the ratings it’s pulling in. [CAMERON: tvdiva@eonline.com Veronica Mars in the subject line. I compel you!] SANDY: So vote. Vote, vote, vote, vote. THEO: Yes. It’ll be safe on the day they announce that we have a third season. SANDY: Exactly. Exactly. THEO: Until then, all bets are off. Everyone has gotta be pulling full time for this thing. SANDY: Yes. We’re gonna just keep stressing that point over and over and over again. THEO: Absolutely. But uh, one more thing. What about this, all this truth about Kendall? Or shall I call her Priscilla? SANDY: Oh, I know. Well her IQ just jumped 60 points. THEO: Yeah. Her net worth probably jumped a few points as well. SANDY: Oh, well yeah. The fact that- oh, and I should actually make a correction. I know that last week I said that the life insurance policy was taken out three days before the bus crashed, and one of our listeners wrote and pointed out that that wasn’t in fact true. It was three days before he married Kendall Casablancas. So I just want to make that correction. But the fact that she’s the one who actually stands to be their beneficiary if something were to happen to them is mind-boggling as well. THEO: You have to remember that it has to happen to both of them at the same time. SANDY: Right. THEO: ‘Cause the way those policies work, I’m pretty sure – and I wouldn’t bet my life on this – they both have to die at the same time. Else, if only one dies and one lives, the policy goes to the survivor. SANDY: Right. So that’s what I would guess. THEO: The only way she stands to inherit that eight figure sum is if Beaver and Dick die at the same time. SANDY: Yes. THEO: So. SANDY: I love to that we don’t actually even know at this point, three episodes to go, who the bus crash was actually meant for. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: We don’t know. We don’t know if it was directed to the kids on the bus. We don’t know if it was directed to the kids out on the limo. We don’t know if it’s one person, if it’s multiple people. And I gotta say, I think it’s multiple people. I don’t think they were targeting one specific person. THEO: And you know I disagree so much on this. I think uh, I think it was a single target that’s sort of been disguised in a group massacre. I know that we’ve discussed it so much, but I think it could work both ways. And I just think that we need more information before we actually get to decide who was the target. Whether it was a single person or it was the group together. Because the problem I have with the group is that there’s no sort of cohesive… there’s no single thread that links all of those people together. I mean you have the bus driver, you have the uh, the teacher. You have the six students. And there’s nothing that they really share other than the fact that they happened to be on the bus at that time. SANDY: Well here’s the thing. And I know Scarlett’s made the same point as you’re making about the- THEO: Way to claim the support of someone who’s not here, by the way. Great. [Laughter] SANDY: No. I’m saying she supports you. She disagrees with me. THEO: Excellent. SANDY: And I think… here’s my thing. If you were gonna go after one person, there are a lot less high-profile ways to do it where you’re not gonna guarantee that everybody in this city is gonna be fighting for justice to find out. Not that they’ve really been going into public outrage over the bus crash, but presumably they would. There would be public outcry. We would have to get justice. All these kids are dead. THEO: Well there was. Do you remember all the T-shirts and the uh… SANDY: Well, right. THEO: All that. SANDY: Yeah. Well they were certainly franchising. But I’m talking about people with their, with their torches, you know? THEO: Right. SANDY: And I think if you were just going after one person you’d just cut their brake lines and, and take them out. And not necess- I’m not giving people ideas here. [Laughter] THEO: Oh. I’ll scratch that out on my feelings journal. SANDY: Yeah. Exactly. Um. I don’t think it would be necessary to go after a ton of people all at once just to get one person. I think you’d have to almost be truly evil to kill seven, eight innocent people. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: However, you know, while I think that it might be different to see a common thread through people now, I think that it might- the bus crash might be the result of a group of people who each had specific vendettas with different people who were in the bus or on the limo. THEO: Sort of a throwback to the Boatloads of Fun Corp. SANDY: Right. Exactly. Exactly. That’s what I sort of had in my head. THEO: That’s a very interesting idea. SANDY: Boatload of Fun Corp. They’re gonna come up again. Um. THEO: I think they might. Well I think a lot of things from the first episode of this season could come up. Um. I think that really set the tone for the entire season and I think as we get closer we’re gonna see a lot more reminders to the audience about that episode. SANDY: Quite possibly. Quite possibly. All right. Well on that note, I think we are gonna take our next break and we’ll be back after this. [MUSICAL BREAK! Swayze- The Spy Song. Cameron loves it. She also loves the break. Her carpal tunnel is kicking in.] THEO: Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is Theo with you without Sandy or Scarlett. And I’m gonna be doing a segment right now called, Theo Investigates, in which I take a few minutes of your time and we go over some of the big mysteries that have yet to be solved on Veronica Mars season two. And at the end of this I’m gonna give you five questions, and I’m gonna give you me email address. And I’d like for everyone out there who has an idea, who has a dream, however insane they might think it is, to please email me your answers. What you think will be the answers to these questions at the end of the season. Uh, that way we can all communicate. Everyone can get together. We can just compare notes, essentially. THEO: So first off, because I promised I would. I’m gonna give you my top five suspects. And I’m not gonna explain them. If you’d like to the see the suspects, my explanations for them, or the questions after I read them, please visit our webpage at www.neptunepirateradio.com. There’ll be a link on the main site, and you can check out my Theo Investigates page. But until then, here are my suspects. THEO: Number Five: Terrence Cook. Number Four: Kendall Casablancas. Number Three: Mayor Goodman. Number Two: Butters. That’s right. I think it might be Butters. And Number One, the most likely suspect for the Neptune bus crash is: Beaver. Or Cassidy Casablancas. Now if you’d like to see my explanations for those, and I agree they may seem off the wall, especially Butters. But Scarlett and I spent a long time talking about it this week and I think we’ve got some interesting ideas. And uh, you know. What is a good season of Veronica Mars without some crazy, surprising, definitely not guessed, not seen beforehand twists at the end. So. Go to the website to check those out. THEO: But here are the Top Five Questions that I’d like to uh, here from you guys about. The email is theo@neptunepirateradio.com. And I’ll try to respond if I get an email. I don’t know if I can respond to everyone. But I’ll do my best, I promise. THEO: Okay. Questions for this week. Number One: Who made the anonymous call from Logan’s Life’s Short party? If you guys all remember, uh, someone contacted Weevil – I think it was about Curly Moran – during- it was anonymous. It was from Logan’s house. It was during a Life’s Short party. Although I think, and a lot of people think, that is very important to the plot this season. THEO: So uh, Number Two: Who killed Curly Moran and why did he have Veronica Mars’ name sharpied across his palm? We know who beat him up, but we don’t know who pushed him into the Pacific. And we certainly don’t know how the name got on the hand. So I’d be very interested in hearing from all of you, speculation. Certainly some good suspects out there. THEO: Number Three: Why was Terrence Cook breaking into Ms. Dumass’ uh, dumbass, Dumass’? I think there’s a little debate about that. Why was he breaking into her parents’ home? Uh. If you’ll remember, he got shot and we really don’t know why yet. We haven’t seen him after that. So it should be interesting to see what happened there. THEO: Number Four: Who hired the prostitute to steal Cliff’s briefcase? Yeah. We know the prostitute did it. We don’t know why and we don’t know who ended up with his briefcase. We do know that there were some important Logan Echolls murder files in there. We don’t really know what anyone wanted to do with them since that case is closed. So it should be an interesting turn of events to see what happens. I’m really interested in hearing what you guys think about this and who you think is responsible for this. THEO: And the last question, uh, from this past episode. May be important, may not be, but it was left unresolved. So I’m interested in hearing what you guys think. It was, Number Five: Who was the anonymous tipster who clued Veronica into the Fitzpatrick’s Barracuda? If you’ll remember there, she got a very small private message that talked about, you know, if you’re interested I have a Paypal account. Set this up. But no one ever really uh, explained who that was. And someone had to have knowledge of the car, knowledge of the school’s paper, and knowledge of Veronica Mars. There’s very few people that could do that, and the fact that it’s left anonymous at this point is very interesting. THEO: So please, feel free to email me. That is, once again: theo@neptunepirateradio.com with your answers and potential questions for next week. If they’re good, I may use them. I may steal them. You’ll never know. But please, try to email me and I’ll try to respond if I can. Thanks very much. SANDY: All right. And we are back and now it’s time for our music segment. Again, I know we talked about the technical difficulties that we’ve been having this whole time, earlier in the episode discussion. So, once again the technical difficulties are coming in to play here, and it’s just going to be me on the line with Bailey. Neither Theo nor Scarlett could get in for this portion of the podcast. BAILEY: Oh. SANDY: So you’re just gonna have to bear with me. I know. They’re way more interesting than I am. So I think- BAILEY: Oh, stop it. SANDY: I’m gonna totally bring you down, but- [Laughter] BAILEY: If I only have to talk to one person I’m happy that it’s you. SANDY: Aw. Yay. Okay. Well I’m gonna hold you to- that’s recorded. So next time you get all buddy-buddy with Theo, I’m gonna be like, hey. Wait a minute. BAILEY: She likes me more! SANDY: Exactly. Well. I know it got cut out because we didn’t get to use the copy of the episode discussion before, but in our original episode discussion when we were recording with Scarlett she was talking some smack about your boy Beaver. BAILEY: I, I heard that. As soon as I heard it I was like, [gasps] no! So I’ve got a bit of a bone to pick with Scarlett. SANDY: I know. BAILEY: You do not mess with the Beavs. SANDY: I know. BAILEY: No. SANDY: And I was totally defending you so we’re gonna, you know, that just gives me more points on my list and it’s too bad that none of the listeners will know what we’re talking about because they didn’t hear that portion of the episode discussion. BAILEY: Well, you can take my word. I listened to it, and she was talking about how she wouldn’t miss him and how he should just die. So. [Cameron, the transcriber, senses a conspiracy to silence Scarlett with all of these “technical difficulties” after disparaging remarks about Beaver were made. Hmm.] SANDY: Oh yeah. ‘Cause we were talking about how, um. Once again, none of this was in the episode discussion that we actually recorded, but- BAILEY: Well. SANDY: In the original episode discussion we had talked about the life insurance policy on Dick and Beaver, and how I couldn’t figure out how Dick could be worth that much money, except to say this is an incentive for killing Dick. BAILEY: Right. SANDY: And she was um, I think Theo made a comment about well, but you’d be killing Cassidy too. And that’s when Scarlett was like, “Meh. He can go.” BAILEY: Yes. SANDY: It’s a good thing you weren’t there. BAILEY: Blasphemy. SANDY: ‘Cause the gauntlets would have been thrown. Um. Okay. BAILEY: Yes. It would not have been pretty. SANDY: Well let’s actually talk about the music in this week’s podcast. BAILEY: Yes. That’s why I’m here. SANDY: In this week’s podcast? In this week’s episode. BAILEY: Well both- good music in both this week. Um. Actually we did not have very much music at all this week, so this is gonna be a little quick thing. The only identified song we had was “Treat Her Like a Lady” by the Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose. And this of course is in the scene where Liam Fitzpatrick is driving down the road in his ‘Cuda and he’s having a little karaoke moment. SANDY: I had a little Angel flashback there when he had the claddagh ring. I was like, oh it’s A- no. It’s not. Okay. BAILEY: Well. They keep doing this to me. They keep showing us that the Fitzpatricks have a good taste in music and it’s like- SANDY: That redeems them? BAILEY: Just a little bit. SANDY: They can kill dogs. BAILEY: No, no. SANDY: They can put lighters to people’s faces, but as long as they have rocking music taste. BAILEY: It’s just, it’s just a tiny little bit redeeming, that’s it. SANDY: Okay. BAILEY: Killing dogs totally just defeats that. SANDY: Okay. Well that’s good. That’s good that, that killing dogs um, can’t be completely absolved by listening to the right band. BAILEY: No. SANDY: All right. Well what’s the uh, other song that was in this week’s episode? BAILEY: Okay. The other song is unidentified as of yet. And it’s in the scene where Weevil is working on his car and Hector comes in to tell him about how the Fitzpatricks are screwing with the PCHers and how he needs to take care of his people. And it’s like this Spanish hip-hop type thing, and nobody’s figured out what it is yet. So if anybody knows, just feel free to email me at bailey@neptunepirateradio.com. [Edit: Song identified as Rene Brizuelar – Dame Esa Cosa. Thanks, Richard!] SANDY: Excellent. And that’s B-A-I-L-E-Y, bailey@neptunepirateradio.com. BAILEY: Yes. Yes I always, it’s hard to remind people to spell my name correctly. SANDY: Yes. And you can get very, very ticky about that. We don’t want some other Bailey at Neptune Pirate Radio getting all your music questions. BAILEY: No. Definitely not. You can send suggestions there or questions regarding the music on the podcast. Whatever. SANDY: Awesome. Well, you know, um. If people wanna listen to this music, why don’t you tell them- I know we were talking about this earlier, a great place for people to go if they want to hear the music from the show. BAILEY: Yes. There is an excellent site. It’s a Veronica Mars radio site. And it’s got pretty much all the music that has been played on the show. It’s excellent. You can listen to it. It’s streaming. And it’s just like a regular radio station. And it’s just; it’s a really excellent site. It’s nice to jam out at work or, you know. SANDY: I love it. Yeah. I mean I listen to it. I put on my headphones at work. I’m doing document review in my office, and Veronica Mars radio gets me through the day. BAILEY: Right. SANDY: I’m not kidding. Um. And they really do. They have everything. BAILEY: Yeah. SANDY: Everything I think that’s ever been played on the show, including- what I love about it is you’ll be sitting there and you’ll listen to like, “Sway” by The Perishers. BAILEY: Right. SANDY: And then all of a sudden it’ll transition to Alona Tal singing the cabaret song in Like A Virgin. BAILEY: Right. SANDY: You know what I mean? They have like those little audio clips or they have the Kristen Bell version of um, “One Way or Another,” which I just think is really cool, so. It’s a great site. BAILEY: Yeah. I’m looking at the site right now, and just right now they’re playing Spoon, and previously was Queens of the Stone Age and Josh Kramen. So yeah, they’ve got an excellent, excellent mix there. And you can listen at: www.freewebs.com/apmkk/index.htm. And of course that’ll be up on the site because it’s a little bit of a mouthful. SANDY: It is. But I think you can actually get there too if you just type: www.veronicamarsradio.com into your web browser. It’ll take you to the link to get you to the actual radio station. BAILEY: You’re right. I see that now. See, I’m not used to it because I have it in my favorites so I don’t pay attention. SANDY: Yeah. You just click. I know. Um, I don’t- BAILEY: Or you could Google it. SANDY: You could Google it. BAILEY: Google’s always good. SANDY: Yes. It does pop up on Google. All right. Well I think that’s all we have for this week then if we just have these two songs. BAILEY: That’s it. SANDY: All right. Well thanks for stopping by and we will be back after this. [MUSICAL BREAK! Amplifico- Real Low] [The song is awesome. Cameron relaxes. She thinks her hands have built up endurance and strength, and believes she can crush water out of a rock with her newfound power. She is wrong.] SANDY: Well Pirates, that’s it. You’ve come to the end of yet another podcast. THEO: Wow. This has been her third podcast. I’m so excited. I can’t wait to hear the next one already. SANDY: I know. Me too. THEO: I know. Um, Scarlett? Why don’t you leave us some parting words of wisdom? SCARLETT: Hi. This is Scarlett with your inspirational greeting for the week. “To accomplish great things we must not only dream, but act.” –Bill Blackman. Leave us a message Pirates. We’ll see you next week. [CLOSING THEME: Brent Pocker- Neptune’s Water] BAILEY: If you’re interested in the music featured in this week’s podcast, find out more at www.neptunepirateradio.com or you can email me at bailey@neptunepirateradio.com. Additionally some of the music you heard here tonight was provided by the Podshow Podsafe music network. Check it out at: http://music.podshow.com [END BROADCAST] [Cameron, the transcriber, would like to thank the team for working through the technical difficulties. Let’s keep these hands as busy as possible. Thanks, Team.] [END TRANSCRIPT] |