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This podcast is produced by fans of Veronica Mars, and is in no way affiliated with the UPN/CW network, Rob Thomas, or The Powers That Be, and does not reflect the views of any of the entities creating and producing the show. Skip to: [OPENING MUSIC: Classical] THVO: Neptune Pirate Radio cordially invites you to attend the 2006 Senior Prom. Come and remember the good times shared during the first two seasons of everyone’s favorite show, Veronica Mars. Welcome to the 4th Neptune Pirate Radio podcast. SCARLETT: Hey, Mars fans. Welcome to the prom. SANDY: Yay! THEO: Yes. Very exciting. SANDY: I’m so excited for the prom. THEO: Oh yes. SANDY: Now, Scarlett I know we’ve talked about this already, but you have a super-fine date that you are waiting for. SCARLETT: Yes. I may just be going to the prom with Troy. SANDY: Ah, I love Troy. THEO: Now, now is this bad boy season 1 Troy, or converted nice guy maybe season 2 Troy? SCARLETT: Bad boy season 1 Troy. Definitely. THEO: That’s right. That’s right. That’s the nice choice. SANDY: He’s the snarkier, funnier Troy. With the better haircut. SCARLETT: The better Troy. Nobody wants the guy that gets punched in the face. [Laughter] SANDY: It’s true. It’s true. That’s why we like Logan. We like the guy that does the punching. And now we are perpetuating every girls only like bad boys stereotype known to man. THEO: Love the bad boys. SANDY: No we like the interesting ones. SCARLETT: Who’d you bring with Sandy then? SANDY: Um. SCARLETT: Do you have a bad boy for you tonight? SANDY: Um. He’s not particularly a bad boy. Um. He’s- well, I mean I guess. THEO: He is. Sorry. SANDY: My date for this evening is everybody’s favorite steroid-popping, what can I do you for, season 2 Luke, who I adore just because I think he’s funny. And, you know hopefully- SCARLETT: He’s friends with Troy! SANDY: He is! THEO: Friends? Uh, yeah. SANDY: Hopefully they’re still friends after Troy stole all of his drugs and got his life threatened and made him sell his prize ball. SCARLETT: Water under the bridge. THEO: Evil, duplicitous water. SANDY: It’s true. SCARLETT: Water under the bridge. SANDY: Hopefully they can keep their peace just for tonight, so. SCARLETT: Exactly. SANDY: We’re just waiting for them to arrive. THEO: Oh yes. And I’m uh, you know, waiting for Tad from M.A.D. to call me back. But uh, I guess since that hasn’t happened, I guess I’ll be going with party pig. SANDY: Ooh. THEO: I don’t- I don’t know! I don’t think I could’ve picked- SCARLETT: That’s the better choice. THEO: I think so. I think at this point I think it is, so. I’m going stag with the part pig. SANDY: I could’ve said something really, really dirty there, but I’m gonna refrain. Keeping in mind who the party pig’s previous date was, and… SCARLETT: Ooh. SANDY: I’m just gonna stop right there. The joke is there, I don’t need to make it. Um. THEO: Don’t go in for the easy kill, do you Sandy? SANDY: No. No I don’t. Okay. Well, moving on. We’re actually just, like I said, we’re waiting for our dates to arrive and whenever they get here we’re gonna skedaddle, but in the meantime why don’t we do a little podcasting? What do you say? THEO: I guess. SCARLETT: Well, okay. THEO: All right. SANDY: While we’re just sitting here doing nothing. SCARLETT: If we must. Sitting in our formal wear. THEO: Maybe I’ll pass around the party pig, who knows? I’m a sharer. A sharer. SCARLETT: Well I’m not sharing my date. SANDY: Um. We’ll see about that. As soon as she goes off to the bathroom, Troy is mine. Um. Okay. Well speaking of parties - one of the things that I’ve seen on the Internet recently cause I am a huge message board freak. I love message boards and when I’m bored at work I surf them all day long – is all the finale-cons. I know I’m going to a finale-con, and I’ve seen a lot of other people are going to finale-cons. THEO: I am as well. I’m very excited. SANDY: You’re going to one in New York, right? THEO: I am. I’m going to one in New York. I uh, will be posting the information about the finale-con that I have been invited to on our website later this week so everyone can look at it. SANDY: Which is awesome. And I know, in addition to the one in New York there’s also one that’s taking place in LA. And we also have the contact information for that. So if you’re out there and you ha- which obviously I didn’t say this, but we will post that contact information on our site. But if you’re out there and you know of a finale-con that is going on and it’s open to the public- THEO: Let us know. SANDY: Yes. Email us: neptunepirateradio@gmail.com Let us know. We’ll put the information up on our site. We’ll give it a shout next week in our podcast. THEO: It’s a great way of getting fans together, too. SANDY: I know, I think- SCARLETT: Mars fans, unite. SANDY: Exactly. THEO: I know. And it’ll be so much more fun to have all these people that have, you know, suffered and struggled along the whole season 2 journey with you to share in the big reveal, the final moments. SANDY: I know. All the gasping and the oohing and aahing. And speaking of the gasping and the oohing and aahing, with regards to the finale. Be careful. [SANDY laughter] SCARLETT: Oh, in regards to the finale, eh? Not the party pig. SANDY: Not the party pig. Not this week’s episode. Um. [Laughing fit] [Outrageous laughing fit.] THEO: Why are you laughing? [Outrageous laughing continues.] SANDY: [gasping] I don’t know what’s wrong with me today! [Still laughing.] SCARLETT: Sandy’s having a breakdown, guys. THEO: I love it. I love it. SCARLETT: We apologize. THEO: This is so staying in the podcast. [What was that? SANDY’S laughing?] THEO: If this isn’t in the podcast, I will make it my goal in life to publish this. This is fantastic. [SANDY controls herself. Cameron, the transcriber, wishes for more laughing fits to fill the time in this LONG episode.] SANDY: Okay. SCARLETT: I’ll upload it. It’ll be fine. SANDY: Speaking of reactions, uh, like that that are completely spontaneous. I don’t know where that came from. Um. [SANDY LAUGHING AGAIN! She wins a special place in Cameron’s heart.] SCARLETT: Well, since Sandy’s having a breakdown we’ll just let you know that right before the finale [May 9th], on May 6th our favorite Michael Muhney is gonna be doing an Internet chat. You should check that out. SANDY: True. True. It’s on Fan Forum. At noon. SCARLETT: You can talk again, Sandy? SANDY: Yes. I’ve regained speech. Yeah, it’s at noon at Fan Forum. It’s noon LA time. And it’s on May 6th. We love Michael. We adore Michael. SCARLETT: Go chat to him. SANDY: Yes. This is not our thing though. SCARLETT: Oh no. SANDY: I love Michael. I’m glad he’s doing it. This is completely unaffiliated with us. You should definitely go check it out. Um, what I was gonna say before, if you have a reaction to the finale and you’re having a finale-con, please record those reactions. Send them to us. We’ll put them on the air. We would love to see what people around the country are thinking as they’re watching the show and checking out the valley. THEO: And here. SANDY: And here. Yeah. THEO: Since, you know. We’re podcasters. SANDY: Exactly. THEO: But I have some good news that Sandy shared with me this week that I think I should share with everyone else. Veronica Mars made the Top Five shows in the Save our Show, Save One Show poll on Eonline.com. SANDY: That’s right. Good job voting, listeners. THEO: Very excellent. I’m proud of each and every one of you that sent an email. And now we send them again. Isn’t that right, Sandy? SCARLETT: All over again. SANDY: Yes. Yes. THEO: That’s right. SANDY: All those email addresses you created for the 1st vote, now you can use them for the second one. THEO: Use them again. That’s right. I will be using my 87 emails from all my gmail invitations, so. SANDY: Yes. Yes. THEO: I wish I were joking. SANDY: Yeah. So please do. Send as many emails. Get your friends. Especially now that it’s down to five shows, a lot of people don’t have a show that’s listed in those five. So don’t- THEO: So they’ll default to another one. SANDY: Exactly. So email your friends. I put a message up on my MySpace. I put a message up on my Instant Messenger. And- THEO: I tattooed myself on the forehead. SANDY: Walk around with it. I sent out a bulletin at work. SCARLETT: That’s hardcore. THEO: That’s how you can recognize me at the finale-con. SCARLETT: At the con. THEO: That’s right. I’ll be the one with the tattoo of the email on his forehead. SANDY: tvdiva@eonline.com THEO: tvdiva@eonline.com SANDY: Yes. So vote, vote, vote. Cause we definitely want Veronica Mars to win. THEO: Hands down. SCARLETT: And remember, Veronica Mars and only Veronica Mars in the subject title. Don’t put anything else in there. SANDY: Yes. Very important. No other words. THEO: No dirty words. SANDY: Yeah. No dirty words. THEO: That’s right. Now in the body of the email… SCARLETT: There you go. SANDY: Yeah. I think that the reason for that is that they must be filtering by subject line so it automatically sends. So make sure it’s spelled correctly. Make sure those are the only words. Make sure it’s Veronica space Mars. We don’t to get emails and votes getting kicked out for any other reason. THEO: And I’m gonna say it again cause it’s very important that we vote for this. It’s tvdiva@eonline.com SANDY: Sounds good. THEO: So. Absolutely. I’m very excited. I really hope we win this. SANDY: Me too. SCARLETT: We’ll put the email address on our website so that you can go and click on the link and send it from there if you need to. THEO: Absolutely. SANDY: Excellent. Well I think since we have some plans later this evening, and some dates that we need to catch up with, we should probably get on with the podcast. THEO: Yeah. Yeah I gotta call. I gotta call Tad and see what’s taking him so long. SANDY: Exactly. THEO: You know I saw the website. I’m sure he’s up for it. So. [Laughter] SANDY: All right. Well on that note we’re gonna take a break and we’ll be back after this. [MUSICAL BREAK! Cameron does not know the song yet! But she is ever so grateful.] SANDY: All right, Pirates. We are back. And now it’s time to discuss this week’s awesome episode. And just so everybody knows, we decided to sort of break it up this week cause there was a lot of stuff going on with the plot, and a lot of um, really awesome stuff going on with the relationships. SCARLETT: Nobody could really shut me up about it. SANDY: I know. Well, we’re gonna try. We’re trying to be quiet just for this, with regard to the relationships, just until we get to the relationship discussions. We’re gonna break it up a little bit so that we don’t let- THEO: That’s right. That’s when Scarlett can coo for five minutes. SANDY: Exactly. SCARLETT: Woo! SANDY: I know. THEO: That’s right. SCARLETT: I’ll have my moment. SANDY: Yes. Well we didn’t want, you know. We thought oh, if we just combine the two this week we will get so caught up in all the Shirtless!Logan-y goodness and awful, awful stress and heartbreak, and Mac and Beaver and all that. And it would totally- well not Mac and Beaver. Mac and Butters. It would totally convolute everything else that we were doing. So. SCARLETT: The real episode. SANDY: Yeah. So real episodes. We can focus on the plot. What’d you guys think? The stuff that we learned about the bus crash, Woody, and all that. Thoughts. THEO: I think the most interesting thing in the whole episode is that we found out that uh, Meg’s father – I think it was Meg’s father – bailed Lucky out of jail. Suggesting- SCARLETT: Oh, but we already knew that they had a connection. THEO: We did. But I didn’t think it would be ongoing after Meg died. SANDY: That is a good point. That is a good point that the relationship is still there even thought the future wife angle is out of the picture. SCARLETT: You know, actually. I’m gonna say it now. I think Mr. Manning did it. That’s my theory. I know you have your “Theo Investigates,” but my theory is Mr. Manning: behind the bus crash. THEO: Really. SCARLETT: Yeah. SANDY: Why? THEO: How daring. SANDY: What? Elaborate please, Scarlett. SCARLETT: Is there motive for this? No. No. Well… no. No, there’s no motive. That’s my out there. Last season- THEO: That’s fine. You go for it. SCARLETT: Last season I said it was Dick and Beaver, and I was wrong because I had no motive. My unmotivated choice this year is Mr. Manning. SANDY: Yeah, but we didn’t know the motive for Aaron Echolls until the finale. SCARLETT: Creepy, child-abusing Mr. Manning. SANDY: Well we also have Mayor McCreepy who clearly Lucky was about to out as being a child molester. THEO: Yeah. SCARLETT: A little creepy. SANDY: Yes. I think that’s a given. And you know, I actually read this online at the message boards, this is not my original thought. But- THEO: You read message boards? [Laughter] SANDY: I do. I read message boards a lot. And I’ve actually stopped posting as frequently now because I try and save all of my insights for the podcast, rather than putting them out there and then restating them for the podcast and having people go, “Hey, she’s plagiarizing off of…” X-person. THEO: Herself. SANDY: Yeah. I’m like, all right. I’m just gonna keep them to myself. But this I did actually read online from somebody who is not me, which was that perhaps Woody staged the whole sex with a hooker thing to sort of divert any child molester/homosexual vibe that anybody might be picking up. Because there’s no reason why he would need to still be half-dressed after Keith got there. The Camelot isn’t that far away. Why wouldn’t he have gotten fully clothed? THEO: It’s a very interesting point. SCARLETT: That’s true. SANDY: You know, it just sort of added to that whole, you know. I think it’s clear he was setting Keith up. I don’t know why he was setting Keith up, but. THEO: Oh. SCARLETT: I thought it was interesting that Keith did it, though. THEO: Yeah, I agree. SCARLETT: I mean, after all last year with Clarence Wiedman and stuff. And him and Veronica were so against it and he even had this line when he took Duncan back from Cuba. He was like, “Oh, I’ll send you a postcard. You can hang it in your cell.” SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: He was so against everything that Clarence was doing for the Kanes and he’s just done exactly the same thing for uh, for Mayor McCreepy. SANDY: Very good point. THEO: I saw Woody Goodman’s response as more of a political spin control, sort of damage control, than actually instigating it. But now that I look at it like that, it’s a very interesting angle. Um. Sort of, it disguises his past crimes and gives him some political cover for the moment. SANDY: Yeah, I’m kind of wondering if there is an angle- you know what? Initially I thought, why would Woody, if he’s behind the bus crash, be so into having Keith in charge, and you know, by incorporation and whatnot, when Sheriff Lamb is clearly – I love you, Michael Muhney – but he’s clearly a doofus and he’s lazy and he doesn’t do anything, why wouldn’t you, if you were behind the bus crash, wouldn’t you want the doofus who doesn’t do anything in charge? And I thought, well why would he want Keith in charge? And part of me thought, okay. Well maybe he didn’t perpetuate the bus crash. Maybe he knows somebody who did and he’s trying to get that person caught. SCARLETT: Hmm. SANDY: Yeah. He can’t put the information out there himself, but he’s kind of hoping that the information gets put out there in another way by having somebody who’s really incredible in charge. But perhaps he was just keeping his investigator close so he could keep tabs on what it was that Keith was figuring out. Maybe he didn’t really necessarily want Keith to be in charge, but he, you know, wanted to make sure that he knew what Keith was up to, and now he’s trying to discredit Keith so that anything he does find out wouldn’t be taken seriously much like in the Kane case. THEO: Very interesting. I just think that if it was sort of a posturing like that, I think it was badly timed. I mean especially because, you know, the most pressing thing about his sort of administration was the ballot. The um, Proposition 51, was it? The incorporation of Neptune. This has to happen a few days before the vote. I don’t know. It seems badly timed, politically. SANDY: But maybe he doesn’t actually really care that much about the incorporation. Maybe that’s a front. THEO: That’s true. That’s- SCARLETT: Yeah. THEO: That’s what, that’s what struck me as well. Um. Cause it’s really the only thing we’ve ever heard him talk about, you know, of importance in his capacity as Mayor. SANDY: Or maybe it goes back to the whole Boatloads of Fun Corp. rich parents uniting, um, for some sort of purpose. Perhaps he was in the pocket of the wealthy families of Neptune and this is something that they wanted and that they pushed. And he didn’t actually particularly care about it himself, but sort of set up- THEO: Right. That he needed to sing that song to get the gig as Mayor. SANDY: Right. THEO: That makes sense. Speaking of which, do you think he’s the one that revealed that Terrence Cook threw the playoff game? SCARLETT: Ooh. Yeah. THEO: ‘Cause remember at the end of the episode, when Jackie goes to see Terrence at the hospital she brings the paper, and one of the headlines is Terrence Cook basically threw the playoff game. And it’s not really explained who revealed it. So uh, do we think it was Woody? Do we think it was Mayor McCreepy or someone else? I’m not sure. SCARLETT: It could have just been Ms. Dumas’ parents. Because he did say that they’ll have the article in their unlocked garage. SANDY: But wouldn’t they have revealed it earlier? Why did it just come out now? SCARLETT: Maybe they just found it. SANDY: Perhaps. THEO: Perhaps. SANDY: I mean that’s entirely possible. I think it’s somebody who’s wanting to keep the suspicion on Terrence for whatever reason though. THEO: I think so. I think that if you make him a bigger villain, it diverts attention from who actually did the bus crash. SCARLETT: I enjoy how I have no motives and I just shout out people’s names at random. It was their parents! It was Mr. Manning! THEO: I love that. They all did it themselves. It was a suicide pact. SCARLETT: Exactly! [Laughter] SCARLETT: I don’t need a motive. Or a train of thought. SANDY They actually did Terrence a bit of a favor though, because one of the reasons he didn’t wanna put forth some of the um, information that removes suspicion from him like his involvement with the gentleman from the Indian reservation casino, was because he didn’t want to be seen cavorting with somebody who was on the league’s unsuitable character’s roster. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: And now he doesn’t have that barrier anymore. People know that he’s a gambler. That’s sort of out of the mix. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: So that information could possibly come forward now. Just a thought. THEO: Very interesting. SCARLETT: Hm. SANDY: You know it also could be the Fitzpatricks who leaked it. They were the ones who had the information about Terrence in the first place. They’re the ones who told Lamb about it. THEO: That’s right. SCARLETT: And they are evil. SANDY: They are evil. THEO: They actually do happen to be evil, yeah. SANDY: We don’t need a specific motive. They’re just evil. Um. No, but they, you know. If they wanted to- THEO: I don’t think- you know what? That does it for me. That’s good. You want somebody to be evil? Check. I’m there. SANDY: Evil? Done. THEO: Evil. Done. Check. Move on. SANDY: So. You know. It’s possible that they’re somehow connected with the bus crash or behind it. They may not be behind it but they could be connected with it in some way. Wow. Now we’re gonna get to the whole scene at the door when we talk about the relationship stuff, but do we think that Kendall was just at Logan’s place for sex? Do we think she was there for some business? SCARLETT: No. There has to be something more. Who goes to have sex with someone who’s drunk off their face, and specifically, at their prom? His room must have been trashed. You could hear the beer cans being kicked around. Doesn’t seem like Kendall’s scene to me. THEO: I’m really pleading the 5th on that question. SCARLETT: Logan was falling over himself before Veronica rejects him. After that, I can imagine several more bottles of champagne in his future. SANDY: Yeah. It’s not just- I mean they’ve been very clear that their relationship is just about sex. So there has to be something more going on there for her to keep running back after he insults her and talks to her like she’s garbage. I mean, I know the fangirls have their opinions, but Logan can’t be so incredibly talented that she would just keep going back no matter what. SCARLETT: Well, we don’t know that. THEO: Despite what you might like to think. SANDY: Well, you know- THEO: Hands in pants. SANDY: Hands in pants. Hands in pants, um… [Two-thirds of the hosting team loses their train of thought. Cameron, the transcriber, thinks that Hands in Pants are efjeiwurqmvhgcjadlkjf.] SANDY: No. You know. There’s gotta be something there besides just sex with a high school boy that has her… yes. SCARLETT: All right. That’s gonna happen a few more times tonight. SANDY: Yes. Hands in pants. THEO: So you’re saying the sex can’t be the end game. SANDY: No. I think there’s gotta be some other reason she’s there. SCARLETT: Especially since she’s linked up with the Fitzpatricks and- SANDY: And Aaron Echolls. SCARLETT: Whose cellmate is apparently the one who hired the escort who stole all the information about Logan’s murder case. THEO: Oh yeah. That’s right. SANDY: Yes. Well, and the key to the Echolls’- THEO: The storage locker. SANDY: -the storage locker, which could be where our friend, Mr. Oscar, came from. THEO: That’s right. Which I still can’t believe. Aaron Echolls had an Oscar. So. SCARLETT: Actually you can see it if you watch M.A.D. when Logan and Veronica are making out in the house, if you can tear your eyes away, the Oscar’s actually there in the display cabinet in the back. SANDY: It is. THEO: Wow. SCARLETT: I’m proud. I wasn’t distracted enough to see that but yeah- SANDY: Which means that he must have won more than one. THEO: Hm. SANDY: Because the Lilly Kane one would have already been used. SCARLETT: That’s really sad. SANDY: Hey. Like we said last week, Nicolas Cage has on Oscar. THEO: He doesn’t have two. SANDY: True. But he could’ve also been a producer on a movie that won. THEO: Oh I’m sure he won for Best Original Screenplay. That’s it. Clearly. SANDY: Um. Yes. SCARLETT: Maybe it was Lynn’s. THEO: Best Sound Editing. Yes. Oh, maybe it was Lynn’s. SCARLETT: It seems unlikely. SANDY: Yeah. Now I find that even harder to believe. No but he could, you know, there could be a myriad of reasons why he has multiple Oscars. But I do think that, you know, it’s clear that if he had one in M.A.D. that this must be the 2nd one. Otherwise, he- otherwise I don’t know how you get Lilly’s blood on it. I think this must be the genuine murder weapon. Which means we’re gonna totally revisit that night and see- THEO: Wow. Yeah. We have to look at everything over again. SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: Unless he’s really creepy and he actually kinda collected up some in anticipation of it. SANDY: [speaks for all of us] Ew. SCARLETT: Sorry I was just down a level. Down a notch. THEO: Wow. Yeah. SANDY: Scarlett, the Random Theory Girl. THEO: Would you like to name another name? RTG: Didn’t you miss me last week? Didn’t you? SANDY: We did! We were so boring. THEO: I can’t tell you how much I did. SANDY: I went back and listened and we were so dull. We were like, “Blah, blah, blah. Theory, theory, theory. Blah, blah, blah.” SCARLETT: There were no Hands in Pants! SANDY: There were no Hands in Pants! THEO: There were no Hands in Pants. That’s true. But this episode was so full of stuff it just, one after another. Just, very revealing. Everything’s starting to play out. The cards are starting to fall. SCARLETT: Oh, people. Veronica has… Chlamydia! SANDY: Chlamydia! Chlamydia. Where did she- I knew V/D. I knew- THEO: V/D. SANDY: It better have come from Duncan. SCARLETT: Tells you everything you need to know. SANDY: Yes. Um. I- you know. I- man. Veronica has- SCARLETT: Veronica, what are you doing? SANDY: Yeah. That’s the question. Where did it come from? Was Duncan- was Duncan sleeping with somebody else that we don’t know about? Did he get it from Meg and Meg really wasn’t as innocent as we thought? THEO: Yeah. SCARLETT: Or did he sleep with Kendall? THEO: Could it be linked back to Lucky? I mean maybe Lucky and Meg, and then Meg and Duncan, and then Duncan and Veronica. SCARLETT: Oh my God. I got so confused and I thought there was a Duncan/Lucky thing going on there and that was just way over my head! [Laughter] SCARLETT: We were back to the party pig. SANDY: Um. You know it’s possible too that, you know, that um, you know. In the episode where we talk about sexually transmitted diseases and Gia’s like, I think we have Chlamydia growing on our trellis, you know. Maybe that is a throwback to Chlamydia at the Goodman house… Run with me… Woody… THEO: Maybe it’s been mentioned. SANDY: Or that Woody has it and passed it or something. I don’t know. Maybe that’s a Scarlett theory, I don’t know. THEO: Wow, that is really- SCARLETT: Sharing and caring. SANDY: Yes. SCARLETT: Woody Goodman. THEO: Oh wow. Woody is just the man with the bull’s eye at this point. If we can find a way to pin it on you, Woody Goodman, we will. SANDY: Yes. SCARLETT: Hey, come on. Neptune’s doing it to Logan. We can do it to Mayor McCreepy. SANDY: It’s true. THEO: Yeah. SANDY: Well, you know. An alternate theory is that it’s not really Veronica that has Chlamydia. It could be somebody else. And, you know. We’ve seen a lot of shady business from doctors in Neptune. I’m not taking their word at complete face value. THEO: Yeah. I don’t trust the lab results very much. SCARLETT: Why would someone be like, “Oh, Veronica, you have Chlamydia. Actually, not really.” [Laughter] THEO: We lied. We’re just messing with you. I would love to see that. That’d be great. I’m sorry. You’ve got Chlamydia and- SANDY: Just kidding! THEO: -we’re just joking! SANDY: Oops. Um. No I’m just saying like, maybe test results, you know, maybe Veronica will find out other people who have this. I don’t know. It can’t be throwaway. They’re not just giving Veronica Chlamydia for no reason. THEO: No. SANDY: It’s gotta tie into the plot. THEO: Well it’s so perfect because it gives you a sort of physically, concrete way of linking sexual partners. SANDY: True. THEO: You know. Sort of tracing backwards. SANDY: True. THEO: Because you know that she got it from Duncan because I don’t think- I think that’s the only person she’s had sex with, I believe. SCARLETT: Yeah, I think we would’ve maybe been privy to that. SANDY: Yeah. THEO: Yeah. So uh, that only leaves Duncan and we know Duncan’s a little questionable. But uh, we know that he wasn’t sleeping around just randomly. So I think we’re gonna- SANDY: We don’t know that. We think that. THEO: I suppose we do. I suppose we think that. SCARLETT: We trust Logan with that but, you know. How trustworthy is his information. THEO: True. SANDY: That’s true. THEO: But then again, if it was true he could’ve used it to maybe make Veronica stop thinking about Duncan. So. He may have actually told her the truth. SANDY: Well I think he would tell her the truth from what he knows, but we’re just saying I don’t know that Logan knows everything. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: He likes to pretend he does. It doesn’t mean it’s true. SCARLETT: Not always. THEO: Doesn’t it? I’ve been hanging around with you guys for so long, I thought it did. [Laughter] SANDY: [sigh] Um. SCARLETT: Dreamy sigh time. Dreamy sigh time. [Sighs] SANDY: Hands in Pants! THEO: I don’t have one. I’m sorry. Huh? [Laughter] SANDY: You don’t have a dreamy sigh? Well. Okay. I think we’ve exhausted the plot information. I just- I’m blown away by the roller coaster we’re gonna be going on in the next two weeks. And I’m a little- SCARLETT: I can’t wait for next week. THEO: Wow. SANDY: I’m a little concerned about the character arcs that have been going on with some of the people, like with Jackie and with Weevil. Because it seems like they both have this full-circle plot arc, which means they’re either gonna be evil or they’re gonna die. I’m just saying like, last season- [Laughter] THEO: You’ve got no other choice. Evil or dead. [CAMERON: Evil Dead?] SANDY: No other choice. Well we saw that last season- SCARLETT: Why can’t it be Beaver? [CAMERON: Seriously.] [Laughter] SANDY: I know, you just wanna- SCARLETT: I’ll take evil over Beaver. Come on, guys. I’ll take Jackie over Beaver, that’s how bad it is. Come on, people. THEO: Wow. SANDY: Um. I’m not gonna play this for Bailey, cause she’s gonna get really mad. SCARLETT: I know. THEO: Weevil. SCARLETT: I just thought we should throw out some more there since our transcriber [WOOT!] has theorized that’s why I wasn’t here last week. [CAMERON: No doubt.] SANDY: Oh it’s true. SCARLETT: Conspiracy. SANDY: It is the conspiracy that- SCARLETT: Made by Beaver. SANDY: Yes. Cassidy the great mastermind has decided to cause all technical problems for you. [CAMERON: You laugh now…] SANDY: No. What I was gonna say is last season we saw Aaron Echolls sort of went through this redemption plot where he decided he was gonna go back to family. He quit being in the business and he beat up Dylan Goran. SCARLETT: He ate blue corn chips. SANDY: He threw the surprise party. You know. It was sort of like, oh. Maybe Logan is gonna get a dad who does pay some amount of attention to him, and then Boom! Murderer. You know, I’m just- THEO: Murderer. SANDY: Yes. Killer. So I’m thinking, you know, it’s gotta be the same thing with both Jackie and Weevil who- Weevil hasn’t really had a total redemption plot, but he’s sort of come full circle. He’s not a PCHer anymore. That sort of line for him has been cut off. THEO: That’s true. SANDY: And, you know, Jackie is now- it’s like straight-haired Jackie is nice Jackie. THEO: Wow. Wasn’t she though? She was really uh, very obliging to Wallace at the very end of the episode. SANDY: Yeah, we’re gonna get to that. SCARLETT: Oh yes. THEO: Yeah. SANDY: Um. But- SCARLETT: Must we? SANDY: Yes. We have to address- SCARLETT: It was a little weird and out of place. SANDY: It was a little awkward. I think mostly it was awkward because it was interrupting the Logan/Veronica goodness. But this is what we’re not supposed to be doing! We’re not supposed to be talking about the relationships yet. Um. Anyway. THEO: All right. I was still wondering what’s gonna happen to Jackie. SANDY: I just think- yeah. I think she’s either evil or she’s going to die. I don’t think she’s going to go to the Sorbonne. I don’t believe that’s going to happen. SCARLETT: I love how final that is. She’s going to the Sorbonne, or she’s going to DIE! Okay. Fine, Sandy. There’s no other options there. SANDY: No I just. Okay. SCARLETT: Sorry. SANDY: She could be evil. Evil is an option. THEO: Evil is an option. SANDY: I just don’t have a concrete motive for her evilness. SCARLETT: Maybe she’ll be evil and die. SANDY: All right. THEO: You just blew my mind. SCARLETT: I think someone’s gonna get shot. No I think someone’s gotta get shot. There’s been so much emphasis on guns this season. THEO: You think we’ll have another murder mystery for the uh… SANDY: Well, we’ve seen Logan’s gun. And when you see a gun in the 3rd act it has to go out in the 5th, right? SCARLETT: There you go. SANDY: Is it the 1st act or the 3rd act? I don’t know. You see a gun in one act; it goes off two acts later. That’s all I know. So I definitely think yes. SCARLETT: We’ve seen a lot of guns that have not gone off. SANDY: That have not gone off. That’s very true. All right. Well since we’ve been itching to get to the relationship stuff I think we should take a break. THEO: Yes. SANDY: And then we’ll come back later on in the podcast and discuss the relationship. Sound good? THEO: Excellent. SANDY: All right. Awesome. We’ll be back guys. [CLASSICAL MUSIC! THE RETURN OF MYSTERY VO!] MYSTERY VO: You need an adjective for a gross overstatement or a sappy confession? Is average and mundane inadequate to describe your feelings? Use EPIC! Now with 100% more heartstring tugging power. Win the girl of your dreams, or at least sound good while trying. Buy EPIC now and get another EPIC for free. Delivered the morning after you use the first one. Do not hesitate. This is the chance of a lifetime. Don’t waste it. EPIC. Make yourself heard. [END MYSTERY VO] THEO: Well. Hello and welcome back. And now, it’s time for I think Sandy and Scarlett’s favorite section, which is where we will talk about the uh, new relationship developments in the current episode. SANDY: Mmm. SCARLETT: AAAAH! Everybody. Say it with me. HANDS. IN. PANTS. SANDY: Hands in Pants! SCARLETT: And if you don’t know what that’s relating to, you have not watched the final scene closely enough. SANDY: I know. Or enough times. All right. Well we’re gonna get- we’re gonna save, cause we wanna force you guys to listen to as much rambling from us as possible. We’re gonna save the Logan and Veronica stuff. Let’s first talk about just the prom in general. How awesome that we got to have a little Alterna-prom? SCARLETT: I loved it! Senior prom. THEO: Very nice. SANDY: I loved it too. It was a little Dawson’s Creek. They did do the Alterna-prom there. THEO: What kind of fascist school administration cancels a prom? I mean really. SANDY: I know. Evil. Evil. THEO: I know. Very evil. SCARLETT: They were bad on their senior trip to Magic Mountain. THEO: That’s right. You know what? Principal Van Clemmons is getting- might make it on my list this week. Just for canceling the prom. SCARLETT: I know. SANDY: I can’t believe Van Clemmons wouldn’t let the prom go on for the sole purpose of allowing Butters to finally go on a date. [Laughter] SCARLETT: Yeah. This is true. THEO: What kind of dad is that really? SANDY: You know Butters was like, “Daaaaaad.” THEO: You’ve just coerced the woman of your dreams into being your prom date and your dad- SCARLETT: Coerced, blackmailed. It’s all the same. SANDY: It’s all the same. THEO: -your dad ruins it for you. SANDY: No. He seemed like, “Daaaaaad, I rented a pirate ship.” And Van Clemmons would be like, “Vincent. Why didn’t you tell me?” SCARLETT: Where in California do you get a pirate ship, guys? SANDY: I don’t know. But now Butters needs to come on our show and talk about his pirate-ness. THEO: It would be awesome. SANDY: Butters. If you’re listening- I mean Vincent, if you’re listening, um. SCARLETT: Please talk to us. SANDY: Imitation crab. Um. We’d love to have you on. Uh, yeah. So. They were so cute though. I know we’re supposed to root for Mac and Beav. Well I know that the rest of us are supposed to root for Mac and Beav. SCARLETT: Mm. THEO: Some of us are supposed to root for Mac and Beav. SANDY: Yes. But I like Mac and Butters- SCARLETT: Some of us are less Scarlett than others. THEO: I think Mac may have gotten out just in time. I think there are some problems with Beav, and I think that she should be glad she got off that ship before it went down. So. SANDY: It’s possible. SCARLETT: And onto the pirate ship. [Aarghs] SANDY: I really liked- I thought they were cute and he was so nice in his little fancy- SCARLETT: They were. I like how they danced with three feet between them. SANDY: Yes. THEO: I saw sunlight. SANDY: And Mac really did look lovely. Um. Madison. Madison going stag. THEO: I love it. SCARLETT: Oh. She looked like prom threw up on her. THEO: I love how Veronica just eviscerated her, you know, with the whole Lamb stuff. That was my favorite scene. SANDY: Oh yeah. That was beautiful. Beautiful. SCARLETT: I think that’s the happiest we’ve seen Veronica in like, forever. SANDY: I know. Oh it was so good. Cops crawling- THEO: Oh yeah. It was relentless too. It was like three minutes of pure joy. SANDY: Yes. THEO: It was great. SANDY: Cops crawling all over you. It’s just great. So perfect. And A Trip to the Dentist. We got a little continuity fairy moment there with the Trip to the Dentist. SCARLETT: Oh yeah. THEO: Oh yes. That’s right. And it took me a few watches to realize this but uh, yeah. Madison hands Gia her glass of champagne and Veronica runs and saves her from it. I love that. SANDY: I know. It’s very nice. THEO: I thought it was fantastic. SANDY: Um. SCARLETT: Even after how mean Gia was to Veronica. It was sad. SANDY: Yes. It was a very, it was a very Meg-esque moment there, you know. ‘Cause Meg is the one who, despite being upset with Veronica over Duncan still being in love with her in A Trip to the Dentist, saves Veronica from the Trip to the Dentist. And you can see sort of the look on her face when Meg sort of contemplates it. And now Veronica’s taken over that role. I hope this doesn’t mean she’s gonna get pregnant and die. SCARLETT: Oh no. THEO: No. I somehow feel they’ll keep the main character. SCARLETT: It’s all right. Duncan’s gone. THEO: I think that they’re gonna keep the uh, title character there. SCARLETT: Do you know who was very nice to Veronica? SANDY: Who? SCARLETT: For part of the evening at least. SANDY: Who? SCARLETT: Logan, perhaps. SANDY: Logan. SCARLETT: Our favorite champagne swigging little host that he was in his white tuxedo. SANDY: I know. THEO: I agree. I think there’s only one man in America that can pull off a white tuxedo, and it may very well be Logan Echolls. SANDY: Now, let’s be fair. He wasn’t wearing a white tuxedo. SCARLETT: Okay. I’m sorry. SANDY: He was rocking the white tuxedo jacket with the black pants. That’s a much better look. THEO: All right. SCARLETT: Okay. Yes. This is true. SANDY: And, first of all, I loved how, you know, at the beginning of the episode it was so clear how badly he wanted her to go, that for once he was willing to cross class lines. He didn’t care who she invited. He didn’t get upset that Corny and them were coming. I mean he asked her about it, but he wasn’t really upset about it ‘cause he just wanted Veronica there. SCARLETT: You know what I was sad not to see though? In Credit Where Credit’s Due we have all the code for when he’s having his beach party. I want that on the Alterna-prom invitations. I want the little fried eggs for Friday and stuff. SANDY: Oh yeah. That would’ve been awesome. THEO: I’d like to see what people come up with. Uh. In terms of what their- SCARLETT: Make some code. THEO: That’s right. Share the code with us. SANDY: Yeah. Send us a coded- send us a coded invitation of what we would’ve liked to have seen for the Alterna-prom. Um. But the outtake of breath that he gave when she walked past because he just couldn’t take how pretty she looked… SCARLETT: Oh. I couldn’t take her pretty she looked. THEO: He did a bit of a 180 there. I was very impressed. SCARLETT: He did. SANDY: It was very nice. It was very nice. SCARLETT: He was very intercepting of her. I mean he checks her out later and it’s kinda like, swoop right in there. SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: Which is impressive considering how drunk he is, really. THEO: Yeah. That’s true. It’s difficult. SANDY: So the confession- SCARLETT: And the little shuffling. The shuffling. SANDY: [some sort of groan] SCARLETT: Every time she looks away I’ll just scoot a little bit closer. SANDY: Yes. He kept moving closer. SCARLETT: Until I’m practically on her lap. SANDY: The EPIC speech. Now. There’s been some complaints about whether or not their relationship is really epic. Blah, blah, blah. And you know again somebody online pointed out, and this was my reaction too, which is that it’s not that the producers or the writers or the fans necessarily think their relationship is epic, but it’s the fact that Logan thinks it’s epic. You know. SCARLETT: Yeah. SANDY: We know he blows things out of proportion. He’s a huge romantic. Lilly was the love of his life. Blah. The fact that he thinks their relationship is epic is what is amazing. SCARLETT: But also, Veronica agrees with him the next day. SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: She kind of laughs at herself, but she’s smiling and she’s like, “Yes. We are epic. Let’s go make babies.” [Laughter] THEO: I missed that part apparently. SCARLETT: Really? THEO: Yeah. SCARLETT: Were we watching different episodes again? THEO: We may have been. Sorry. Missed that. SANDY: You know what- THEO: No, I think there’s potential for epic. I don’t think it’s epic yet. SCARLETT: [fiercely] But it will be epic. SANDY: It will be epic. SCARLETT: tvdiva@eonline.com Make it epic! SANDY: Make it epic. SCARLETT: We need another year of this. SANDY: Yeah I love that even though things turned really, really south at the end and it ended horribly and my heart was broken even though I watched it 47 million times- I loved that at least Logan knows. He knows now. THEO: I agree. I think she should’ve thrown- SCARLETT: Thrown something at him? What would she have thrown? SANDY: I don’t know. Um, her lips? Her hands. SCARLETT: Yes. Her arms. SANDY: Her arms. SCARLETT: Her legs? SANDY: Her legs? Um. SCARLETT: I’m going for legs. Up against the door! SANDY: Yeah I just love that at least- SCARLETT: Is that’s appropriate for our podcast? SANDY: Yeah I don’t- I don’t think so. Um. I think that it’s great though that now Logan at least has a reason to believe that being proactive when sober would pay off in some way. You know. He knows now how she feels about him. SCARLETT: Even if he doesn’t remember how he felt. SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: I was sad about that. SANDY: I know. It was- it was a very sad scene. SCARLETT: It was just like the worst hangover in the entire world. SANDY: Oh man. I mean not only do you have a hangover; you have Skanky McTrampy laying her little paws all over you- SCARLETT: Yes. Clinging on you. SANDY: -and the girl that you loved- SCARLETT: Crying over you. SANDY: -who’s finally standing in front of you, crying and you feel like the biggest jerk in the world. Although I don’t necessarily think he did anything. It’s not like he- SCARLETT: He didn’t do anything wrong. SANDY: Yeah. He didn’t owe- SCARLETT: She didn’t give him any reason not to go and call Kendall or whatever. SANDY: Right. She had rejected him again. He was really drunk. They weren’t dating. He had no inclination to think that they ever would be dating again. SCARLETT: She ran away. SANDY: Yeah. He- but even if he didn’t remember. Even if he had blocked that part out, he had no reason to be loyal to her. I mean it still goes to show that he’s doing the stupid things like hooking up and sleeping with bimbos and whatnot that he had proclaimed himself to be over, but it’s not like he did it to deliberately hurt Veronica. SCARLETT: Oh yeah. I don’t think he would anymore. But um. It was still- it broke my little heart. And uh, I don’t know if I can forgive Rob Thomas for that unless he fixes it. SANDY: I know. SCARLETT: So he has two hours to fix my heart. SANDY: Think about how bad things were though at the end of Episode 20 last year. And yet- SCARLETT: It’s kind of a nice continue- that’s the completely wrong word. It’s a nice parallel, that’s what I’m saying here. SANDY: Yeah. SCARLETT: ‘Cause she’s the one that’s hurt this time and left alone and being ditched. And he was last time. SANDY: Yeah. It’ll be really interesting to sort of see how that comes to play out. All right. Well we lost, we lost Theo there for a minute, but he’s back now. And you’re probably for the better. You’re probably for the better that you didn’t listen to us squee, squee, squeeing all over the place. SCARLETT: Oh yeah. SANDY: Um. But I think the last relationship we have to touch on at all is obviously the Jackie/Wallace scene. That I think was only offensive because it interrupted the Veronica/Logan scene. THEO: I thought it was a pretty good scene. SCARLETT: I’m sorry. But I found that very offensive. Yeah. It was an interesting scene. THEO: You know what’s great? This happy little relationship is trying to sneak under the radar of whatever odds are out there that doom relationships in Neptune, California. SCARLETT: Oh, completely. THEO: And you just know that this is not gonna end well AT ALL. And they do too. SCARLETT: We’ve already decided that. THEO: Oh yeah. SCARLETT: We’ve already decided Jackie’s gonna die, so. You know. THEO: That’s true. I don’t know what’s gonna happen, but Jackie is not gonna make it out well, if at all. So. SANDY: Yeah. Or she’s gonna be evil. And Wallace slept with an evil person. THEO: I don’t think evil. I just think she’s gonna be gone. I think she’s just gonna be gone and she’s gonna miss the hell out of Wallace. And Wallace is gonna be pathetic and sad and mopey for about three months, but I think he’ll be fine. SANDY: Yeah. I think we’ll definitely be interested to see what goes. SCARLETT: Oh obviously we won’t see those three months. THEO: Amen. SANDY: It’s true. Uh, well. All right. On that note, I think we’ve exhausted the relationship talk. I mean I could talk about Logan and Hands in Pants and the destroyed look on his face and Veronica’s tears… SCARLETT: Hands in Pants! THEO: And let me tell you, she CAN. SANDY: For hours and hours and hours. And I definitely have watched that scene- SCARLETT: Oh, we have! SANDY: -over and over and over again. But um. I don’t wanna bore our listeners completely to death, so I think we should head out and take a break and come back after this with the music segment. Or some segment. We’ll come back with a segment. I don’t know which one it’ll be. [Laughter] SCARLETT: Any old segment! THEO: Close your eyes and point. SANDY: Um. I don’t wanna ruin the suspense for the listeners. You’ll just have to wait and see. THEO: What could it be? SANDY: But we will come back with a segment, after this. [ASSUMED SCVO: “Time After Time,” Veronica Mars style.] SCVO: Lying in my bed I hear the clock tick and think of you, [END SCVO] [Cameron, the transcriber, laughs maniacally like Sandy at the last line. Can’t. Calm. Self! HANDS IN PANTS!] SANDY: Welcome back, Pirates! Now it’s time for our music segment. What’s up, Bailey? BAILEY: Hey. How are you guys doing? [Pleasantries exchanged. Imagine it for yourselves.] SCARLETT: What music do you have for us this week? BAILEY: Okay. Well before I get into the music for this episode, I just have to say that we have one of the unidentified songs from last week. Thank you to Richard. Um. And that is the song we hear when Weevil is working on his car and Hector shows up and that’s Dame Esa Cosa, by – okay, and listen to me butcher this now – Rene Brizuelar. And it’s in the Mega Tracks library. And you can download a two-minute clip of it and listen to it there. But the website’s a mouthful, so I’ll just say it’s at MegaTracks and we’ll put, I guess I’ll pass it off to Scarlett and she can put the link up for me. SCARLETT: Certainly. BAILEY: So. Yes. That has been identified. SANDY: Excellent. SCARLETT: Excellent. SANDY: Well I would think with this week being a prom episode you probably have lots of music to talk about. BAILEY: You’d think, huh? [Laugher] BAILEY: Wait a second. Wait. There was music this episode? SANDY: Yeah. I know. SCARLETT: Really? BAILEY: I- I honestly didn’t know. I think I was too busy alternating between like, screaming in a pillow or beating my fists on the floor and crying. [Laughter] SCARLETT: You mean you didn’t hear any BELLS? Ringing JOYFUL and triumphant? [Laughter] SANDY: Um… BAILEY: Yeah. Well maybe for a minute, but yes. SANDY: She was distracted by the Hands in Pants. [Woos] SCARLETT: Hands in Pants! Everybody! BAILEY: Yes. That was nice. But anyway. Yeah, there are only two identified songs. There are two songs that haven’t been identified yet and so maybe we’ll have those next week. So. SANDY: Hopefully. BAILEY: Um. The two unidentified songs are: the first one is at the Alterna-prom where Logan is welcoming Dick and yes, we do not know that one. And the second one we don’t know is, um, also at the Alterna-prom. And Mac and Butters are talking about how weird they are and Madison is rejecting Dick and, yeah. So if you know those, please email us. And then of course we had I Hear the Bells by Mike Doughty. And this is when Jackie and Wallace leave and we get Logan’s little speech about their epic relationship and all that. SANDY: That little speech. That little speech that ends, you know. It wasn’t very important. SCARLETT: The little speech that could. SANDY: The little speech that could. Yes. What a huge thing. What a perfect song. That is my second favorite song on the soundtrack. Obviously I love Sway, as I went on and on and on in our first podcast. But I love I Hear the Bells, and I’ve been listening to it nonstop. SCARLETT: I think I love it more than Sway, actually. SANDY: It’s- BAILEY: It’s such a good song. SCARLETT: I think it’s won me over. SANDY: It is such a good song. It’s winning me over. I’ve definitely had it on repeat. How can you not like a song where the lyrics are: “Commas and ampersands?” How can you not like that? BAILEY: Isn’t that great? SANDY: I love it. SCARLETT: But I like totally matched up like, right before he takes that deep breath to go on the epic speech, the lyrics are, “Let’s go make out up on the balcony.” And then right before he goes to kiss her we get the, “I’m sick of waiting.” BAILEY: Yes. SANDY: So well done. SCARLETT: They so matched up perfectly. BAILEY: I know. That was so- SCARLETT: But then she bails! SANDY: And then she bails. BAILEY: I know. SANDY: And it was your whole thing too. We talked about this when we talked about Sway, about how the characters are listening to the song. SCARLETT: They could hear it. SANDY: Yeah. BAILEY: Right. SANDY: They could hear it too. And in fact, she comments on it. BAILEY: Yeah. Yeah. SANDY: Which is really nice. BAILEY: Well, of course that song is available on the Veronica Mars soundtrack and it’s also available on his CD, Haughty Melodic. And you can find out more about him at www.mikedoughty.com. And you can also visit his MySpace, which is: www.myspace.com/mikedoughty. And you can listen to the song there, actually. SANDY: Ooh. I have a new MySpace profile song. BAILEY: Yes. SANDY: That’s gonna be added. It will replace Sway, which is currently my MySpace profile song. [Laughter] SANDY: I need to get a life beyond Veronica Mars. BAILEY: No you don’t. SCARLETT: Never, Sandy. Never. BAILEY: Never. We won’t let you. SANDY: It’s true. I don’t, really. I don’t. BAILEY: I’m sorry. You didn’t get the memo? SANDY: I’m here for life. Sorry Dawn. SCARLETT: You’re never allowed to have a life. SANDY: Um. Okay. BAILEY: The next song that we have is All My Life by DJ Harry. And this is when Wallace and Jackie are getting it on in the hotel. SANDY: Oh yeah. BAILEY: And that’s on his album, Collision. SCARLETT: Don’t sound too excited there, Sandy. [Laughter] SANDY: I loved that scene! Are you kidding? BAILEY: No. That- it was really beautifully filmed. I liked it. SANDY: It was beautifully filmed. I just, you know, I do like Jackie a lot more now and it doesn’t bother me as much as it would have at the beginning. I don’t know. There’s just something about, I guess, the chemistry between the two of them doesn’t resonate with me as much as it does with some of the other characters. But I do love that Wallace got to have his own moment. SCARLETT: And you think she’s gonna die. SANDY: That’s my new theory. Bailey hasn’t been privy to my new theory that Jackie must die. Or Weevil must die, or both. BAILEY: Well hey, it’s better than my date dying. SANDY: Oh, that’s true. [throat clearing] SCARLETT: Don’t worry. I’ve got it covered. BAILEY: Scarlett, I finally have you on the air now. SCARLETT: Oh my God! Face off! [Laughter] SANDY: In one corner, we have Bailey. SCARLETT: Someone’s gonna face Cassidy down. BAILEY: Never! Okay. SCARLETT: -gonna get your man. BAILEY: Well. You can listen to All My Life at his MySpace account, which is www.myspace.com/djharry. SANDY: Excellent. Excellent. And, you mentioned that your date, Mr. Cassidy, you snatched him away from the evil clutches of Mac. No, I’m just kidding. I love Mac. Um. BAILEY: Mac who? [Laughter] BAILEY: Who’s Mac? Mac who? SANDY: Who’s Mac? No we love Mac. But you know. Since they’re- SCARLETT: I think that’s the girl with the pirate ship. SANDY: Yeah. That’s true. BAILEY: How cool was that? SANDY: I loved that. Um. I loved his outfit. I thought Butters- and he matched her in the red. So cute. SCARLETT: Yeah. SANDY: Um. Yeah. Yeah. SCARLETT: You know the best prom outfit though was Corny’s. SANDY: Oh yeah. BAILEY: Oh yes. SCARLETT: The T-shirt tux. SANDY: The T-shirt tux. BAILEY: He’s so corny. SANDY: The top hat. SCARLETT: Oh, punny! He’s so corny. [Laughter] SANDY: That was very punny. Um. Well all around a good episode. Not as many songs as you would think from a prom episode, but not to bad. BAILEY: No but there were four songs and unfortunately I- it really bugs me when there’s unidentified songs. I don’t know why when I can’t find a song or nobody else has found it either I’m just like, Grr. SANDY: Understandable. It bugs me too. But hopefully our wonderful listeners will come through for us again much like they did last week. BAILEY: Exactly. There we go. SCARLETT: bailey@neptunepirateradio.com BAILEY: That’s it. B-A-I-L-E-Y. Okay. Before I go do my hair and wait for Cassidy to get here, I have to have a little contest for the listeners. And it’s a chance for you to win a copy of the Veronica Mars soundtrack, uh, the Mere Mortals EP, and also- we haven’t spoken about it here yet, but Mere Mortals are gonna be coming in for… well they’re not gonna be coming in. They’re gonna be calling in for an interview in a couple weeks, and so you all also can win a chance to call in and ask them a question. And basically it’s- the contest is like Six Degrees of Separation. And I would like you to connect Mere Mortals to Kylie Minogue in six degrees or less. SCARLETT: Ooh. BAILEY: It’s a little daunting, so I’m gonna give you the first connection, and that’s gonna be the song Lost Art by Mere Mortals was used in Episode 2.15, The Quick and the Wed, and that episode also featured a version of I Want You to Want Me, which was sung by Jane’s Sister. And that’s your first step. So. Yup. Get from there to Kylie Minogue. SANDY: Excellent. BAILEY: And you can win the Veronica Mars soundtrack and Mere Mortals EP, and the chance to call in and ask them a question. SCARLETT: Very exciting. SANDY: Very exciting. BAILEY: Yeah. So just email your responses to bailey@neptunepirateradio.com and we’ll see who wins that. SANDY: Sounds good. SCARLETT: Exciting. SANDY: It’s tough. It’s tough. So you’re gonna really have to do the legwork to figure it out. BAILEY: It is very tough. It is very tough. SCARLETT: I don’t think I could do it. SANDY: I’d be hard pressed. BAILEY: I’m not sure that this was implied, but they’re connected musically. So. SANDY: Oh. Okay. BAILEY: If that helps in any way. SANDY: Sounds good. But we don’t want to- SCARLETT: Well we don’t wanna keep you from Cassidy. BAILEY: Yes. Please don’t. SCARLETT: Yeah. In the short time you have left with him before we go all white trash at the prom. [Laughter] SANDY: Yeah. So we’ll see you there in a little while. BAILEY: Yes. All right I’ll see you there. S&S: Bye! [MUSICAL BREAK! FINALLY! Cam can’t even type her whole name. This is a conspiracy to kill her because she sides with Scarlett on the Beaver issue. DIE BEAVER! DIE! Cam swears that-] [The transcriber has been silenced.] THEO: Welcome back to the show, Veronica Mars’ fans. Now it’s time for this week’s edition of Theo Investigates, where you and I will talk about some of the mysteries that have been recurring throughout season two and uh, see if we can uncover some interesting things together. And last week I posed Five Questions to everyone, and I asked everyone to email me their answers. And I have to say I got lots of emails. I got lots of great emails. Every single one was just- it posed a new theory. It posed a new idea. None were the same, and I have to say thank you. Some of those ideas were a little off the wall, but they were fantastic. And none of them were crazy. None of them were unbelievable. And I think that’s a tribute, that’s a compliment to both you and the writers of the show. So. Let’s get into it. Let’s go over the Five Questions. THEO: Number One: Who made the anonymous call from Logan’s Life’s Short party? Number Two: Who killed Curly Moran and why was Veronica’s name written on his hand? Number Three: Why was Terrence Cook shot breaking into his ex-lover’s parents’ home. Number Four: Who stole the briefcase from Cliff? And Number Five: Who made the anonymous Barracuda tip? THEO: Well. Two of those were answered for us this week. Uh, we know why Terrence, or at least we know why Terrence says – I’ve learned, if nothing else, never to trust anyone from watching this show, at least not what they tell you, uh – Terrence says that he did it to get a manuscript or some sort of written evidence that his ex-lover was writing to uh, incriminate him on throwing the baseball playoffs. And uh, I think that makes a lot of sense. I think everyone that wrote in with that agrees. Uh, I think that was pretty much a no-brainer and I promise to try to do better to come up with answers that are a little more open-ended. THEO: Number Four: Who stole the briefcase was also, I think, pretty well revealed this week. I think we found out that it’s Aaron Echolls’ old cellmate. The uh, gruff unshaven looking guy. And I think everyone pretty much agrees that Kendall and Aaron are in this together to sort of spring him from jail so he can do some sort of evil I don’t know. Some random evil to Aaron. It’ll be evil. Uh. Anyway. THEO: The other three questions I think are a more interesting. And I have to say the answers were great. The first question: Who made the anonymous call from Logan’s Life’s Short Party? Well a lot of people thought it was Lucky. And I think that’s a good answer because everyone, all the last three questions, Lucky and Beaver were answers for all three of them. And I have to say, I agree. I think it could potentially be either of those two. Or a combination of those two. Uh. Anyway. A lot of people thought it was Lucky. Some interesting theories. A lot of people thought it was Thumper. Just sort of to stir things up even more. And uh, some people thought it was Leo, to do the opposite and help solve the case of the bus accident because it seems that, since obviously we know Lamb’s not gonna do anything, uh, Leo may have been sort of trying to spur the investigation on himself. Anyway. Whether you believe that, I don’t know. It was a good idea. And I think it definitely deserves a mention. THEO: Uh. The second question: Who killed Curly Moran? And actually the second part: Why was Veronica’s name written on his hand? And it hit me this week after about a dozen emails said the same thing. And I thought this should have been obvious to me when I asked. But, I guess I needed some reinforcement here. But anyway. A lot of people thought he wrote her name on his hand himself, sort of as a reminder to see Veronica or to, I don’t know. It could be good. It could be bad. He could be trying to hurt her. He could be trying to help her. Give her clues, whatever. We know that he was seeking her by his action of writing her name on his hand. So. I think that’s pretty well- that’s a pretty satisfying answer I think. Um. THEO: But as to who killed him, and that seems to be up in the air. Uh. Currently a lot of people think it was Kendall. A lot of people think it was uh, like I said, Lucky and Beaver. So let’s just count those out. But I think one of the uh, best ideas I heard was from a listener named Greg who wrote in and said that it was Beaver and Lucky together. And uh, Beaver was sort of pulling the strings and Lucky was his little lackey. And I like that answer. I think that’s a good one. I don’t know if it’s true or not. But I think- it amuses me. So. Thanks Greg. Thanks very much. A lot of people also thought it was Big Dick Casablancas. That is, Richard Casablancas Sr. I guess that is before he uh, ditched town to avoid the SEC. And uh, I guess he could have his reasons. Maybe he’s behind the whole thing. I guess we’ll have to see. But I thought that was a good answer. A lot of people thought that it was also Liam and the Fitzpatricks. Which, the more I think about it, sounds like a GREAT band name. And if anyone out there makes their name, Liam and the Fitzpatricks, I’m- I’ll feel flattered. Anyway. THEO: The final question was: Who made the anonymous tip to Veronica about the uh, Fitzpatrick’s Barracuda. A lot of people thought, and uh, this occurred to me after I asked the question, that it was Molly Fitzpatrick. The girl who dated Felix for a while. And I think that’s a good answer. Because I think she’s- basically, you need to know three things to do this. You have to know who Veronica Mars is. You have to know where the Barracuda is. And you have to be at Neptune High School to read that. So. I think she fits all three of those. But I don’t know- what really bothers me is why she did it anonymously. ‘Cause it seems like she’d just be the type of person to just, you know, walk up to Veronica and say, “Hey. This is who owns this. This is what’s up with this.” But uh, you never know. THEO: And uh, the other response that I got which was very, very smart, was from a couple different people. Especially a listener named Zoe wrote in and said that it was Billy, Harry’s brother from Nevermind the Buttocks. The uh, this Billy is the one that Liam Fitzpatrick was beating up on because he had missed a couple payments in a row. A lot of people thought it was, obviously Billy needs the money. Billy goes to Neptune, and uh, Billy knew that there was a Barracuda. So uh, I think that fits as well. I wonder if this will come back into play later. As we all know, the uh, brilliance of the show is in it’s continuity. So we’ll just have to watch and see where this goes. Uh, anyway. THEO: Your assignment for this week is to write your Top Five Suspects for the Bus Crash. And uh, if it’s a combination that’s fine. If you just wanna submit one person and explain it for about three pages that’s fine as well. If you’ve been spoiled to the ending of the show, I have not. And I would appreciate it if you didn’t write in because that will make me very, very sad. So please don’t do that. But uh, otherwise. If you’ve got an idea as to who did it, please, I’d love to hear from you. So give me your Top Five Suspects. Give me your reasons behind them. And uh, please remember to email those to theo@neptunepirateradio.com. That is theo@neptunepirateradio.com. And I’ll see you later. And before I do that, I’m going to send you to one more break. Thanks a lot. [LAMB BAAING. MYSTERY VO] MYSTERY VO: Lamb. It’s what keeps you warm at night. [Cam is free from the clutches of the Beav. And laughing at the Lamb. Go. Listen to it now. Words don’t do it justice.] SANDY: All right, Pirates. Well um, I think we’ve discussed- [Doorbell] SANDY: Ooh. You hear that? I think our dates have arrived. THEO: I heard the doorbell. SANDY: I know. So I think our- SCARLETT: I HEAR THE BELLS! SANDY: I- SCARLETT: JOYFUL AND TRIUMPHANT! [Laughter] SANDY: Excellent point. Excellent point. So I think our dates are here, which means it’s time to wrap up this week’s podcast. THEO: Say goodbye to the party pig. SANDY: Bye party pig. SCARLETT: Aw, bye party pig. THEO: Mm. SCARLETT: Well, Pirates, this is Scarlett with your inspirational message for the week. “All misery is derived from not being able to sit quietly in a room alone.” –Pascal [CLASSICAL MUSIC EXIT] [Again with the fake ending! Ack!] BAILEY VO [BVO]: If you enjoyed the music featured in this week’s podcast find out more at www.neptunepirateradio.com. This information will be available in the show notes as well as the transcripts. Additionally, some of the music you heard here tonight was provided by the PodShow PodSafe music network. Check it out at: http://music.podshow.com [END BROADCAST] [43 pages. Cam. Dead.] [END TRANSCRIPT] |